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		<title>IRISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE EXHIBITION DISPLAY &amp; LECTURE Limerick city</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[IRISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE EXHIBITION DISPLAY &#038; LECTURE The Irish Volunteer Commemorative Organisation is happy to announce an exhibition, lecture and display over 2 days on Saturday and Sunday, March 3rd and 4th, 2012. The event opens each morning at 10:00 am and ends at 6:00 pm. The event will take place at the Best [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>                 IRISH WAR OF INDEPENDENCE EXHIBITION DISPLAY &#038; LECTURE<br />
The Irish Volunteer Commemorative Organisation is happy to announce an exhibition, lecture and display over 2 days on Saturday and Sunday, March 3rd and 4th, 2012.<br />
The event opens each morning at 10:00 am and ends at 6:00 pm.<br />
The event will take place at the  Best Western Perys Hotel  (Formerly Glentworth Hotel), Glentworth Street, Limerick City. http://www.perys.ie/    Tel   (+353) 61 413822<br />
The Hotel is centrally located and the train and bus stations are only 500 yards away. Parking is available.<br />
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<p>                         The Glenwoth Hotel 1919-1922<br />
An exhibition of Irish Volunteer items from 1913 to 1923 will be on display and we will have members on hand to answer any questions from the general public.<br />
The lecture will be given by well known historian &#038; author  Tom Toomey, author of the excellent book  “The War of Independence in Limerick 1912-1921”.<br />
Entry will be 5 euro per person and 10 euro per family.<br />
Special group rates available. Phone John: (086) 395-6642 or Garry (086) 873-1497.<br />
Please address all enquiries to info@irishvolunteers.org or see http://irishvolunteers.org/exhibitions-commemorations/   for details. </p>
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		<title>George Gilmore, officer in the South Dublin Brigade, Dublin No 2 brigade,Information Required</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[﻿In currently writing the biography of George Gilmore who until July 1922 was an officer in the South Dublin Brigade, I have recently received about 100 pages from the National Library of Ireland, providing revealing information about the Dublin No 2 Brigade, confirming what he said that after Blessington when the South Dublin was extinguished, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>﻿In currently writing the biography of George Gilmore who until July 1922 was an officer in the South Dublin Brigade, I have recently received about 100 pages from the National Library of Ireland, providing revealing information about the Dublin No 2 Brigade, confirming what he said that after Blessington when the South Dublin was extinguished, he was picked up by the Dublin No 2 Brigade, covering the same area. As O/C of Battalion 1, in December 1922 Gilmore was in charge of five companies that covered the area that stretched from Ailesbury Road in Ballsbridge, Dublin City to Monkstown in South Dublin County and inland to Glencree in the Wicklow Mountains; this included Foxrock, Stillorgan and Blackrock. Almost nothing has been published about this brigade that was commanded by Lorcan O’Briain (may be a pseudonym) until April 1924 except what I just attained from the NL .In addition, some info has come through regarding Neil (Plunkett) O’Boyle of Donegal, O/C of Battalion 3 of the Dublin No. 2 who led the Plunkett column from Nov. 1922 to May 14, 1923 when he was captured and killed in Co. Wicklow by Free State troops, after the cease fire. Although my subject is George Gilmore of Battalion 1, I would appreciate any information concerning the Dublin No 2 brigade. Gilmore reported to the Vice O/C of the brigade on December 25, 1922 that Capt. Foley was O/C of his C Company and P. Little, O/C of D Company. Thank you.</p>
<p>Rosalie Popick</p>
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		<title>Diarmuid &amp; Patrick McCarthy CORK IRA VOLUNTEERS</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diarmuid (Jerome / Dermot) McCarthy (14 October 1900 – 15 January 1933) Diarmuid was born on 14 Oct 1900 at 48 Quaker Road, Cork City, second child after Eileen, who was born in 1898. On his Birth and Baptism certificates his name is given as Jerome. His father was Daniel McCarthy and his mother was [...]]]></description>
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<p>Diarmuid (Jerome / Dermot) McCarthy<br />
(14 October 1900 – 15 January 1933)</p>
<p>Diarmuid was born on 14 Oct 1900 at 48 Quaker Road, Cork City, second child after Eileen, who was born in 1898.</p>
<p>On his Birth and Baptism certificates his name is given as Jerome. </p>
<p>His father was Daniel McCarthy and his mother was Margaret nee McCarthy, but not related. They were from the parish of Caheragh, north of Skibbereen.</p>
<p>Daniel was in the RIC, and so was stationed in the East region of Cork. He must have been stationed around Cork City when Diarmuid was born, but I don’t know where precisely. He retired from the RIC in 1915.</p>
<p>Daniel died in 1924, and Margaret in 1936. They are buried in St Finbarr’s Cemetery in Cork.</p>
<p>Diarmuid was born on 14/10/1900 and baptised the next day in the parish of St Finbarr’s South by Fr. Mark Leonard. Godparents were Florence McCarthy and Frances McCarthy.</p>
<p>He joined the Irish Volunteers.  – this photograph shows him in uniform.</p>
<p>He was engaged to Kathleen Moore, but died in 1933.</p>
<p>His death certificate is in the name of Dermot McCarthy, bachelor, Civil Servant, who died at St Vincent’s Hospital. His address was “Loughereen”, Hill of Howth, Dublin. Cause of death: Pneumonia (10 days) and cardiac failure. The informant was “P McCarthy, Brother” (my father) of the same address. They were both in lodging there. Diarmuid is buried with his parents in Cork.</p>
<p>My father, Patrick (born same address in 1903), was active, in A (University College Cork) Company, 2nd Battalion, Cork I Brigade, Oglaigh na hEireann (IRA) during the three months which ended on 11th July, 1921. He was doing engineering in UCC, and took “time out”! He said he was active in North Cork, as far as I remember, but that seems unlikely if he was in a UCC company. He said very little about it. He had the marks of a bullet wound in the calf of his leg and we have no photograph of him in uniform.</p>
<p>That’s as much information as I have at present.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p> Pádraig McCarthy<br />
IF ANYBODY HAS INFORMATION PLEASE SEND IT IN TO US HERE AT info@irishvolunteers.org</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am writing the biography of George Gilmore, O/C of the First Battalion of the South Dublin Brigade and later the Dublin No. 2 Brigade during the Civil War. Since Neil O&#8217;Boyle, also called Ned (Niall) Plunkett Boyle of Donegal was also in the Dublin No. 2, in the Third Battalion, I am interested in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am writing the biography of George Gilmore, O/C of the First Battalion of the South Dublin Brigade and later the Dublin No. 2 Brigade during the Civil War.  Since Neil O&#8217;Boyle, also called Ned (Niall) Plunkett Boyle of Donegal was also in the Dublin No. 2, in the Third Battalion, I am interested in learning more of the role that Roger McCorley of the Free State army played in the killing of O&#8217;Boyle in Co. Wicklow in May 1923.  So far, I have only seen this cited in Jim McDermott&#8217;s (2011) book, &#8220;Northern Divisions: The Old IRA and the Belfast Pogroms, 1920-1922.&#8221;  Thank you.<br />
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Was just wondering was there  any photos taken at the unveiling for the Fenian commemoration last month in Dublin, reply really appreciated.<br />
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Hi,<br />
Can anyone help&#8230;.I am trying to trace any details of my grandfather who was a Sergeant in The East Limerick Brigade in 1916&#8230;he lived in a village called Hospital&#8230;&#8230;.his name was   Michael Airey&#8230;. I have his IRA medal (No.984). After the troubles he became a career soldier in the Irish Regular Army &amp; died in 1942 (May.18th).        Tanx,      Barry Fitzgerald<br />
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I am researching the many details if General Liam Lynch and his command of A co,1stBatt, 2nd Brigade,based in Fermoy , my grandfather and his brother were volunteers in D co Kilworth/Araglin, I am looking to see if there are any member rolls of volunteers, fianna. Cumman Na mBan, for the Tan War years available, or if anyone knows of where I could find such roles. Someone somewhere has them, they are an integral part of the history that these men and women played. If anyone has any information that may help me give these people the recognition that thy deserve,please email me at &#8220;fermoy52@aol.com&#8221;<br />
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Would you know how I would go about obtaining information on the ambush in Mayo on May 6, 1921in which my great uncles, Thomas Lally and Thomas O&#8217;Malley were said to be engaged<br />
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I am trying to trace a charles known as charlie clifford from dublin left after rising in 1916 &#8211; he was linked to have been involved &#8211; is there any link news &#8211; his name anything &#8211; he died in 1974 and is my great uncle born church street &#8211; moved to Scotland, Glasgow<br />
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Would it be possible for you to check your list of Four Courts Garrison 1922 to see if two brothers Leo and George Smith were members. They are my wife&#8217;s father and uncle respectively. Family info is that they were in the Four Courts battle in 1922.<br />
Thanks</p>
<p>Joe Mathews</p>
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		<title>Martin Corry  Cork No. 1 Brigade of the Irish Republican Army</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martin Corry (Irish politician) Martin John Corry (12 December 1890 – 14 February 1979) was a farmer and long-serving backbench Teachta Dala (TD) for Fianna Fáil. He represented various County Cork constituencies covering his farm nearGlounthaune, east of Cork city. He was a founder member of Fianna Fáil in 1926, and among its first TDs [...]]]></description>
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<p>Martin John Corry (12 December 1890 – 14 February 1979) was a farmer and long-serving backbench Teachta Dala (TD) for Fianna Fáil. He represented various County Cork constituencies covering his farm nearGlounthaune, east of Cork city. He was a founder member of Fianna Fáil in 1926, and among its first TDs after the June 1927 general election. He was returned at every election until he stood down at the 1969 election. Corry was active in farming issues, serving as Chairman of the Beet Growers’ Association in the 1950s. In 1966, upon the resignation of Seán Lemass as Fianna Fáil leader and Taoiseach, Corry was among the Munster-based TDs who approached Jack Lynch to be a compromise candidate for the party leadership.</p>
<p><strong>IRA activity-Captain of E Company 4th. Battalion Cork No. 1 Brigade.</strong><br />
Corry was a senior member of the Cork No. 1 Brigade of the Irish Republican Army during the Irish War of Independence (1919–21). He took the anti-Treaty side in the Civil War (1922–23). In 2007, it was reported that Corry&#8217;s farm had been the suspected site of the execution and burial place of several people considered to be pro-British agents, spies, or informers. Among these was Michael Williams, an ex-Royal Irish Constabulary officer abducted by the IRA &#8220;Irregulars&#8221; on 15 June, 1922 for his alleged role in the shooting dead in 1920 of Tomás Mac Curtain, the Sinn Féin Lord Mayor of Cork. Gerard Murphy&#8217;s 2010 book The Year of Disappearances:Political Killings in Cork 1920–1923 claims Corry personally killed about 35 forcibly disappeared civilians, from a total of 73 in the Cork area of whom 26 were abducted after the June 1921 ceasefire.Murphy presents the Cork IRA&#8217;s targeting of Protestants, and particular suspicion of members of the YMCA, Boy Scouts, and Methodist community, as amounting to ethnic cleansing. Senior IRA commanders including Ernie O&#8217;Malley, Richard Mulcahy, Liam Lynch and Sean Moylan, attempted to curb the excesses of the Cork IRA, with mixed success. In later years, rumours of Corry&#8217;s activities persisted.</p>
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<p> It has to be said that Murphys book was condemned by many as inaccurate and that in general it was flawed.Padraig O&#8217;Ruairc says &#8221; Questions need to be asked about the reliability of Murphy’s research.&#8221; The flaws in Murphy’s work are often evident only when his original source material is examined. If Murphy can not accurately transcribe either the handwritten or typed documents he uses as evidence, then the claim that his book is a work of historical fact based around these documents is seriously questionable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dáil career<br />
In a Dáil career of over forty years, Corry generally restricted himself to speaking on local issues affecting his constituents. In 1953, Corry lobbied unsuccessfully for the Faber-Castell factory planned for Fermoy to be relocated further south in his territory, to the chagrin of party colleagues in Fermoy.<br />
Corry was a staunch advocate of Irish republicanism, strongly opposed to Partition, antipathetic to the United Kingdom, and sometimes bluntly outspoken within the chamber. In 1928, he criticised the Cumann na nGaedhealgovernment&#8217;s expenditure on the diplomatic corps, stating &#8220;These salaries of £1,500 have to be paid so that they might squat like the nigger when he put on the black silk hat and the swallow-tail coat and went out and said he was an English gentleman.&#8221; His opposition to the Blueshirts in the early 1930s provoked an attempt to burn down his house. In the 1938 debate on the Anglo-Irish Trade Agreement which ceded the Treaty Ports to the Irish state, Corry expressed regret that Northern Ireland remained excluded, suggesting &#8220;I personally am in favour of storing up sufficient poison gas, so that when you get the wind in the right direction you can start at the Border and let it travel, and follow it.&#8221; In a 1942 debate on exporting food to Great Britain during World War II, Corry remarked about food shortages there that &#8220;They have no more rabbits to get, and now they are on the crows&#8221;, and &#8220;I would not like to see too many crows going out to feed them. I think the crows are too good for them&#8221;. Patrick Giles called Corry a &#8220;bounder&#8221;, and Alfred Byrne persisted in demanding an apology for the &#8220;unchristian&#8221; comments to the point of himself being suspended from the chamber.</p>
<p>According to Dan Keating, Corry led a group of TDs who persuaded Taoiseach Éamon de Valera to exercise clemency when Tomás Óg Mac Curtain sentenced to death in 1940 for shooting dead a Garda. Tomás Óg was an IRA member and the son of the murdered 1920 Lord Mayor.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is with some relish he recounts the story of Dev&#8217;s attempt in the 1940s to execute the son of Tomás Mac Curtain, the former Lord Mayor of Cork, murdered by British forces in 1920. Mac Curtain had shot a policeman in Patrick Street in Cork City some months earlier and Dev was determined to hang him.</p>
<p>&#8220;But, according to Dan, he hadn&#8217;t reckoned on Martin Corry, an East Cork Fianna Fáil TD and former soldier in the Troubles. Corry gathered together a group of likeminded TDs and they marched into Dev&#8217;s office, without knocking, and told Dev in very unparliamentary language that if Mac Curtain was hung, they would resign their seats and stand as independents.</p>
<p>Dev, with a majority of two seats in the Dáil, had to back down and Mac Curtain was reprieved. Dev, however, soon had his revenge by engineering Corry&#8217;s electoral defeat. &#8220;But Corry was soon re-elected. The people of East Cork respected him. He was a great man, Martin Corry&#8221;, says Dan.&#8221;(an RSF interview with Dan Keating )</p>
<p>In 1948 and again in 1950, Corry proposed a Private Member&#8217;s Bill to allow less restricted Sunday opening of public houses in rural areas, arguing the existing licensing law was widely flouted. The bill was withdrawn after ministerial assurance of an imminent Government-sponsored licensing bill (which did not materialise) and in the face of public condemnation from members of the Catholic hierarchy.<br />
County councillor<br />
Corry was a member of Cork County Council, representing the Cobh electoral area, from 1924 till after 1970. He often clashed with Philip Monahan, the first county manager. Corry regarded the ability of the manager, an appointed bureaucrat, to overrule the elected Council as an affront to democracy, &#8220;the tail wagging the dog&#8221;,reducing councillors to being &#8220;a cloak for his dictatorship&#8221;. Corry was Chairman of the Council (a position later retitled Mayor) for four years in the 1960s: 1962/3, 1964/5, 1967/8, and 1968/9. In this role in 1968 he inaugurated Cork County Hall, the tallest building in the Republic of Ireland.</p>
<p>Corry did not stand in the June 1969 general election. .<br />
In November 1969, Corry was appointed a director of Comhlucht Siúicre Éireann Teoranta, the national sugar company, which was then a state-sponsored body.</p>
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		<title>The Civic Guard</title>
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 One of the guard is hiscousin Sean Doherty&#8217;s Dad , who&#8217;s service was in Limerick. Thanks for the great photo&#8217;s John.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Irish Volunteers Commemorative Organisation were at the Killarney Outlet centre last weekend on Saturday November the 5.th. It was nice to visit Co.Kerry again, we hope to be back again and as soon as we we visit the remaining counties we hope to visit Tralee. http://irishvolunteers.org/2011/11/irish-volunteers-at-the-irish-soldier-exhibition-at-the-killarney-outlet-centre/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Irish Volunteers Commemorative Organisation were at the Killarney Outlet centre last weekend on Saturday November  the 5.th.  It was nice to visit Co.Kerry again, we hope to be back again  and as soon as we we visit the remaining counties we hope to visit Tralee.</p>
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		<title>The Black &amp; Tans: British Police and Auxiliaries in the Irish War of Independence, 1920 -1921. By David M. Leeson</title>
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<p>The Black &amp; Tans: British Police and Auxiliaries in the Irish War of Independence, 1920 -1921. By David M. Leeson Oxford University Press Hardback £30</p>
<p>With the centenaries of the 1916 Rising and War of Independence fast approaching a whole raft of books of widely varying quality are being published on the Irish revolutionary period from 1913 -1923. So far the majority of these books have focused on the lives and exploits of the 1916 rebels, and republican guerrillas &#8211; but Leeson, a Canadian historian, has instead opted to write about the Black &amp; Tans and R.I.C. Auxiliaries. Leeson’s book “The Black &amp; Tans” is not the first on the subject: Richard Bennett’s book “The Black and Tans” was first published in 1959, and last year Ernest McCall published “Tudors Toughs. A Study of The Auxiliary Division Royal Irish Constabulary 1920 -1922.” However Leeson’s book is the first academic work to take a look at the Black &amp; Tans / R.I.C. Auxiliaries and is without doubt the best book yet published on the subject.</p>
<p>Leeson’s book starts by charting the British Governments difficulties in maintaining control in Ireland, and maintaining the integrity of the R.I.C., in the face of growing republican militancy from 1918 onwards. This led the British government to begin recruiting ex-soldiers in Britain and through the Empire as members of the R.I.C. which had traditionally been an Irish dominated police force. Leeson conducts a statistical analysis of the 1,153 men who joined the R.I.C. in October 1920 using it as a sample against which to test the enduring myth that the Black and Tans were jailbirds from England who had been specifically released from prison to join the R.I.C.  He also documents the experiences of members of the Black &amp; Tans and Auxiliaries during the war, with separate sections on their experience of ambushes, assassination attempts, barracks attacks and after being captured by the I.R.A. He examines the role that Black &amp; Tans and Auxiliaries played in British reprisal killings and arson attacks and asks what drove these men commit these acts.</p>
<p>Throughout Leeson’s book is well structured, well argued and clearly written. Leeson’s book is one that anyone interested in the War of Independence will undoubtedly learn something from. His work is at its strongest when he is analysing the development of the British Government’s policing policy in Ireland and R.I.C. recruitment from 1919 onwards. However Leeson’s work is most flawed in his examination of events at a local level which seriously detracts from what would otherwise have been a very good book. Leeson chooses the police jurisdiction of Galway West Riding as his case study for the War of Independence . His narrative of the conflict in the county is weak, contains a number of factual errors and is overly reliant on the official British version of events.</p>
<p>For example when dealing with the sensitive issue of spies Leeson states that the I.R.A. in Galway West executed five suspected spies. This is incorrect &#8211; two of these men, Thomas Molloy and Thomas McKeever, were killed by the Black &amp; Tans. In his footnotes Leeson raises the possibility “that the police killed Molloy under a false flag”. Yet in the main body of the text he sticks to the official British version of events that Molloy had been killed by the I.R.A. and Leeson counts him as a victim of I.R.A. violence.</p>
<p>Leeson doesn’t express any similar doubts about his claim that the I.R.A. killed McKeever. Leeson’s research would have benefited from better use of the statements of Galway I.R.A. veterans collected by the Bureau of Military in the 1950‘s. Thomas Mannion an I.R.A. officer from Dunmore, where McKeever was killed, stated categorically that McKeever was not a spy and that he had been killed by the R.I.C. (See Thomas Mannion BMH WS 1408 Pages 15 &#8211; 16 National Archives Dublin) Leeson also states that the body of Patrick Joyce one of the three suspected spies who were actually shot by the I.R.A. &#8211; “was never found.” However Joyce’s body was discovered and disinterred by An Garda Siochana in 1998. Given the controversies and debates that have arisen concerning the execution of suspected spies by the I.R.A. during the War of Independence Leeson should have researched these cases in much more depth.</p>
<p>Leeson also makes some mistakes when recording the geography of the region. For example he refers to a police riot in Caltra, Galway as having happened in Longford, and states that an I.R.A. ambush in Ballinderry, Roscommon happened in Mayo. To be fair, Leeson probably made these errors simply because he over reliant on these contemporary British newspapers rather than other more reliable sources, but this is another flaw which again detracts somewhat from the overall quality of the work.</p>
<p>There are other aspects of Leeson’s work on the War of Independence in the West of Ireland which are also disappointing. Leeson’s account of the Rineen Ambush (22<sup>nd</sup> September 1922) which took place near Milltown Malbay in County Clare is poorly researched. Leeson repeats the revisionist version of the ambush proposed by the Richard Abbott in his book “Police Casualties in Ireland 1919 &#8211; 1922”. According to Leeson six members of the RIC were ‘massacred’ at Rinneen “where the guerrilla’s were suspected of using dum dum bullets and finishing off the wounded.” The deaths of R.I.C. men killed by the I.R.A. were usually recorded on the R.I.C. register as having been “Murdered by Sinn Feiners” &#8211; however the registrar recording the death of Reginald Hathaway states that he was simply “Killed in ambush.” This record of  Hathaway’s death at Rineen seems to contradict the version of events which maintains that the I.R.A. had ‘massacred’ the R.I.C. or ‘finished off the wounded.’</p>
<p>Leeson’s various references following the Rineen ambush, while mentioning the reprisals against property and rioting which followed failed to explore in any depth the full scale of the reprisal killings which occurred. Leeson quotes a contemporary report from the Manchester Guardian newspaper which claimed that after the ambush “two men were killed in Ennistymon …both of them were ‘marked’ men &#8211; men believed to have Sinn Fein Connections.’ Infact six people were killed in R.I.C. / Black &amp; Tan reprisals following the Rinneen ambush including two elderly men and a teenage girl &#8211; Norah Fox. Only one of the six, Patrick Lehane, was an active member of the I.R.A.</p>
<p>On pages 127 and 128 Leeson discusses in detail the use of the steamship ‘Shannon’ by G Company of the Auxiliaries who were stationed at the Lakeside Hotel at Killaloe in Clare. He describes in detail the damage that was done to the boat by the Auxiliaries and states that the boat was “too slow, old and expensive for G Companies purposes”. However Leeson fails to mention what purposes the Auxiliaries had intended the boat for. The Shannon was used by the Auxiliaries to abduct and kill three members of the I.R.A.( Michael Mc Mahon, Alfred Rodgers &amp; Martin Gildea) and a civilian (Mike Egan) who after being interrogated were tied together and shot dead on Killaloe Bridge. Leeson failed to mention this event in his book. It is a pity that Leeson overlooked this, since this multiple killing would have been far more relevant to his thesis than a discussion on the Auxiliaries yachtsmanship!</p>
<p>Leeson has produced some great research on the reprisals carried out by Irish members of the regular R.I.C. during the War of Independence. However he missed a great opportunity by not examining the role played by Irishmen who joined the Black &amp; Tans and Auxiliaries. Although the traditional Irish narrative states that Black &amp; Tans were all Englishmen, recent archival work by W.J. Lowe has shown that approximately 10% of the Black &amp; Tan’s recruits and 14% of the Auxiliaries were Irishmen. (For more see Lowe, W.J. “Who were the Black-and-Tans?” History Ireland Autumn 2004.) By contrast on page 108 Leeson excludes 16 men from his sample of Black &amp; Tans who joined the force in October 1920 “for being Irish.” Yet the Irishmen who joined the R.I.C. as Temporary Constables (Black &amp; Tans) or R.I.C. Auxiliary Cadets would have been party to the same pay, conditions, and uniform shortages as their British counterparts. Here Leeson has missed a great opportunity to examine whether Irishmen joined the Black &amp; Tans or Auxiliaries because they were had suffered I.R.A. intimidation or because it was a natural step for those who had Loyalist political sympathies.</p>
<p>I was also a bit disappointed by the brevity of the conclusion as I felt that the author could have done more to develop definite conclusions and to construct an argument about the role of the Black &amp; Tans and Auxiliaries in the War of Independence. For example Leeson fails to explain why the British Army did not earn an equally odious reputation in Irish history and folk memory as that afforded to the Black &amp; Tans when their actions during the War of Independence were often comparable.</p>
<p>Despite these stated flaws Leeson’s book is a very good effort. It is by far the best book yet written on the subject of the Black &amp; Tans / R.I.C. Auxiliaries and is set to become recommended reading for those studying this period of Irish history and I eagerly  look forward to seeing more of his work on the period.</p>
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		<title>BOOK REVIEW &#8211; &#8220;THE MUNSTER REPUBLIC:THE  CIVIL WAR IN NORTH CORK&#8221; BY MICHAEL  HARRINGTON</title>
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<p>CIVIL WAR IN NORTH CORK&#8221; BY MICHAEL</p>
<p>HARRINGTON</p>
<p>&#8220;They had spent two years on the run fighting the might of the British army&#8230; The vast majority of the Volunteers were young men plucked from working on the land or from employment as clerks in offices or shops. Some of the officers had second-level education, few had third-level qualifications, and the education of most of the Volunteers would have ended at primary-school level. Their understanding of national freedom was narrow; in essence it meant the ejection from the country of British troops and the British system of government, and its replacement with a form of government that they believed was free and fundamentally Irish. Consequently, the vast majority of the Volunteers did not have the opportunity to consider the concept of republicanism in any depth, let alone the implications of democracy.</p>
<p>&#8220;Republicanism for the Volunteers was shorthand for anti-British nationalism, combined with traditional insurrectionism. Republicanism was an expression of Irish identity, and the cry of &#8221;Up the Republic&#8221; was hurled provocatively at the hated occupying forces. It did not have any philosophical basis. Nor did it imply any future structure of government beyond a native Irish government based on self-determination.&#8221;</p>
<p>These were the preconditions of the &#8216;Civil War&#8217; according to a book called The Munster Republic: The Civil War In North Cork by Michael Harrington published in 2009 by the Mercier Press. The book &#8221;started out as a thesis&#8221;. It is the &#8221;third level qualification&#8221; view of the War of Independence: it was fought by ignoramuses who did not know what they were fighting for, did not know what republicanism was, or what democracy was, and who therefore did not know when to stop fighting.</p>
<p>But who &#8221;plucked&#8221; them from their labour in the farms and the offices, gave them a few war-cries to utter, and put them fighting without a &#8221;philosophical basis &#8221;? Surely it was in England that was done, with virtual conscription followed by actual conscription! Or in Redmondite Ireland, which siphoned people into the British Army with crude shibboleths. But never mind the facts. Learn to feel the feelings of our new quality education which aspires to comprehensive thought control.</p>
<p>What did the plucking is not material. The story is that the ignorant lower classes were plucked from useful labour in farms and shops—what, no tradesmen! were they Poles even then?— and put fighting in the IRA without knowing what they were fighting about.</p>
<p>&#8220;In post-First World War Ireland, democracy was sometimes interpreted in different ways. Universal suffrage among males was in its infancy, women did not have the right to vote [!!!], and the implications of full civil rights for all had not been addressed. Some people believed that a democratic government based on the will of all the people&#8230; was appropriate. But many others believed that government decisions should be based on general collective will demonstrated over several generations of Irish people, and that doctrines embedded in this general will should influence decision-making in government, even if the expressed will of the majority of the people at a certain point was otherwise. Hence the view that the majority did not have the right to do wrong&#8230; In this way republicans could justify taking up arms against the majority of the country because the will of earlier generations had been a complete break from, not the reaching of an accommodation with, Britain&#8230;&#8221; (p137).</p>
<p>Now this is puzzling. The ignorant Volunteers plucked from the farms and shops had an understanding of things drawn from the most philosophical of all modern political theorists, Edmund Burke, who held that the present generation had no right to do as they pleased, but were bound to preserve the inheritance of past generations and transmit it to future generations. And C.C. O&#8217;Brien told us we should revere Burke, did he not?</p>
<p>Harrington&#8217;s quite short Bibliography includes two books by Peter Hart (who of course interviews the dead) and three by Tom Garvin. He seems to have been much influenced by the view of things expounded in Garvin&#8217;s 1922: The Birth Of Irish Democracy.</p>
<p>Garvin in 1922 puts one in mind of Nietzsche on the immoral history of morality and the taming by violence of human impulse in the cause of civilisation. The &#8216;Civil War&#8217; brought us to our senses—or it tortured our senses into the bourgeois/capitalist mould. The &#8216;Civil War&#8217; was about forcing a wild society—a society made wild by its newly established independence gained in a surge of unrealistic expectations—into the narrow constraints of bourgeois life under capitalism.</p>
<p>Garvin does not accept that a genuine will to independence was expressed in 1918. He says that the Election, though policed by the British apparatus of state, was rigged by a small minority of Republican intimidators. (He says that in some places and says something else in other places, but that is the sense of his account of the &#8216;Civil war&#8217;.)</p>
<p>By means of skilfully directed terrorism the small, active minority, obliged the populace to behave as if they had willed independence and fought for it against the Imperialistic intransigence of the British Democracy. Because the people had not willed what they fought for they did not know when they had gained it. Britain conceded independence with the Treaty, but it did not live up to the unrealistic expectations of those who had been excited by the fighting. Therefore they did not want what they had won, and it had to be imposed on them by superior force by an active authoritarian element which knew what freedom meant if it was to be functional. Viable democracy emerged from the purposeful infliction of pain on the idealists by the authoritarians.</p>
<p>Garvin etc. make a point of seeing Ireland post-1918 in what they think is an international context. They mean that what happened in Ireland was of a kind with what was happening elsewhere.</p>
<p>It is not at all impossible that a people should fight for independence with anarchic assumptions about what independence would be like, and should then be hammered into shape by purposeful authoritarians. Something like that happened even in Italy, which disrupted itself through its Irredentist war on Austria (egged on by Britain and the Redmondites). It emerged from  the War in the &#8221;exalted&#8221; condition attributed to the Irish by Garvin, Foster etc., and then had to be battered back into shape by Mussolini.</p>
<p>That is not what happened in Ireland. Some of the Treatyites, who did not feel it was appropriate to defend the Treaty as a submission to irresistible Imperialist force with a view to fighting another day, believed or pretended that it was what happened. The difference between pretence and belief is not easy to pin down in a case like this. One easily becomes the other. (See Pascal.) And some of the Treatyites lived out that pretence/belief very earnestly in the 1930s when they became Fascists for the purpose of suppressing the anarchy within which Irish Bolshevism was lurking.</p>
<p>But the Irish disorder of 1922 was not the disorder of independence won with anarchist expectations. Nationalist Ireland was well adapted to the bourgeois/capitalist order of things long before 1918. The land agitation parted company with anarchic Utopianism, or Millenarianism (which revisionists love to find in nooks and crannies) about 1850 when Gavan Duffy launched the Tenant Leagues on the assumptions of bourgeois political economy—and on that ground made common cause with the Ulster Protestant farmers. And, half a century later, Canon Sheehan and William O&#8217;Brien, in active alliance with the Orangemen, got rid of the landlord system strictly within the order of bourgeois political economy. And then Sheehan and O&#8217;Brien made a serious bid to consolidate the gains of 1903 within a coherent capitalist order of things, and to sweep aside the sectarian grievance-mongering being peddled by the Redmondites. And they succeeded in County Cork and adjacent areas—which is where the War of Independence was fought in the main.</p>
<p>The Dail Government policed the country in 1919-21 in accordance with the bourgeoiscapitalist order of things. The capitalist order of property was held sacred by it, as well as by the society which elected it, leaving aside a residue of problematic forms of landed property in the Midlands. The country did not need to be tortured into capitalist ways in 1922. That torturing had been done generations earlier. And what had been sought by the great agitations launched by Duffy and completed by Sheehan and O&#8217;Brien was not some unrealisable Utopia, but access to the capitalist way.</p>
<p>There were elements of Utopian phrasemongering in Redmondism to the end. But Sinn Fein was bourgeois from the start. (Griffith&#8217;s guide in these matters was the political economist of national-capitalist development, Frederick List.) And the Sinn Fein Party as reconstructed after 1916 was the bourgeois party of a society which had settled down into bourgeois ways. Garvin prefers to ignore that development, as does Harrington.</p>
<p>If the British Democracy had recognised Irish independence when it was asserted in January 1919, I can see no reason to think that anything but bourgeois social order would have followed.</p>
<p>Such disorder as occurred in 1919-21 was the result of the British military attempt to prevent the elected Irish Government from governing. And the disorder of 1922 resulted from the success of the British Democracy in breaking up the Irish Democracy and obliging it to make war on itself.</p>
<p>According to Harrington: &#8221;The Civil War did not happen overnight—it was at least one full year in gestation&#8230;&#8221; (p15). This accords with the academic view of recent decades, often asserted but never demonstrated, that it was the outcome of basic differences within the Sinn Fein party of 1918-21.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the Civil War finally began, it seemed that the republicans had the advantage&#8230; Yet within two months Provisional Government forces controlled the towns and cities&#8230;&#8221; (p16).</p>
<p>I doubt if it seemed to De Valera in late June 1922 that the anti-Treatyites had the advantage. About 40 years ago I read the papers for the first six months of 1922. It seemed to me that the Treatyite leaders had prepared for war from the moment they became the Provisional Government on Whitehall authority. They strong along the Anti-Treatyites while they built up a heavily armed mercenary (paid) army with British support. When they struck, they did so with organised force against a disorganised enemy that had made no real preparation for war.</p>
<p>The Anti-Treatyites were strung along by means of juggling with the Dail Government, with its Sinn Fein party and Volunteer Army, and the Provisional Government and its professional Army. Griffith and Collins played a double act, with Griffith running the Dail and Collins the Provisional Government. But it was Griffith who pressed for war and Collins who delayed. Then Collins struck from a position of strength, and in a little over a month it was all over but for the mopping up of pockets of guerilla resistance in Munster.</p>
<p>When I was satisfied that I knew what was the case in January-June 1922 I thought no more about it for over twenty years. I was trying to deal with the Northern situation, and Northern nationalism tended to be pro-Treaty. When I was asked to give a talk at Newmarket about the Civil War, I merely said it was fought over Crown sovereignty and created the party system of the 26 Counties. It was fortunate that I had not gone into the matter any further as I was told at the end of the meeting that it was the first public discussion of the Civil War in North Cork since it ended, and people were on tenterhooks about it.</p>
<p>Anyhow, forty years ago I thought I knew what had gone on between the Treaty and the War but suspended judgment on it until I was finished with Belfast politics.</p>
<p>Harrington says: &#8221;The delegates, unsurprisingly believed themselves to be full plenipotentiaries&#8221;. They made a Treaty, as they were entitled to do. The Dail ratified the Treaty.</p>
<p>De Valera, who used to be a democrat, rejected the Treaty, either out of pique at not being obeyed, as some suggest, or out of rivalry with Collins for the leadership as Ryle Dwyer suggests. He became ambivalent about democracy and made speeches which can only be understood as incitement against the democracy. The democracy acted to defend itself. That seems to be more or less Harrington&#8217;s story.</p>
<p>I remember much talk about &#8221;plenipotentiaries&#8221; from when I was very young and was surprised to see it being recycled. A plenipotentiary is a diplomat on whom the power of state is conferred for the purpose of making arrangements with another state. He is a creature of a bygone era when travel was slow and there were no telephones.</p>
<p>Whatever the Dail delegates were, they were not in fact plenipotentiaries. They did not present their credentials as authorised representatives of a foreign state at the Court of St. James and have them accepted. The Dail was not recognised by Britain as having any legitimate authority. It was a bunch of rebels. Britain would be willing to make a deal with some of these rebels and set them up in subordinate authority. After much haggling it put its final offer on the table and demanded that it be signed at once by the rebels. The Prime Minister had two letters in his hands.</p>
<p>One of them meant peace, the other war. If the rebels signed it would be peace, and they would be set up in authority. If they did not all sign immediately it would be war. Mr. Shakespeare was waiting to see which of the letters he would rush off to Belfast with. The rebels signed and made themselves the Provisional Government of Southern Ireland.</p>
<p>The delegates were rebels in London but, until that moment, they had taken themselves to be representatives of the sovereign authority in Ireland. They were under instruction to sign nothing without the approval of the Dail Government. But they could not consult their Government because Mr. Shakespeare was waiting. And anyway weren&#8217;t they plenipotentiaries?</p>
<p>Argument about Mr. Shakespeare was part of my childhood. Later on I thought of looking him up. He turned out to be a member of an influential Baptist family at a time when Nonconformists were entering the ruling elite as a matter of course. In 1921 he became a member of Lloyd George&#8217;s Secretariat. About 30 years later he published his memoirs, and described the Treaty&#8217; signing: /</p>
<p>&#8220;About seven-thirty Lloyd George delivered his famous ultimatum. The Irish delegates, he said, were plenipotentiaries and they must sign now. If they refused to sign, war would follow immediately&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;I have sometimes wondered since whether Lloyd George was right in presenting that ultimatum. I am convinced on mature reflection that but for the ultimatum we might have had no treaty. Supposing the Irish delegates had not signed that night; that the negotiations had terminated inconclusively; that the final decision was left over to the Republican atmosphere in Dublin, which had a few days previously rejected Dominion status. Would the treaty have emerged intact? I doubt it. As it was, here were the five Irish delegates committed before the world by their signatures to the approval of the treaty and going before the Irish Cabinet and the Dail to recommend its acceptance. Even so, the treaty survived only by the narrow margin of seven votes in the Dail&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;If, then, Lloyd George was right in attaching the utmost importance to the fait accompliand to the Irish signing that night, he was entitled to use the most potent weapon in his armoury. The delegates to whom the ultimatum was delivered had been in prison, had been hunted, had seen their comrades executed or shot, their homesteads razed to the ground. Savage guerilla warfare had ravaged their homeland. The ultimatum conjured up before their eyes further years of bloodshed and reprisals on a vaster scale.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have, however, never understood why the Irish accepted the ultimatum at its face value. Why did they not call the bluff? Lloyd George stated over and over again that he had promised to let Sir James Craig know next day (Tuesday, December 6) one way or the other. Supposing Arthur Griffith had said: &#8220;What is sacrosanct about Tuesday? We have waited hundreds of years for a settlement&#8230; Are you really going to break the truce and plunge Ireland again into war without giving the Irish Cabinet the chance of discussing your latest proposals?&#8221; How could Lloyd George have persisted with the ultimatum if Arthur Griffith had argued like this.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the Irish delegation did not counter the ultimatum with logic. They bowed to it and signed.  I am nevertheless puzzled to find the reason. Was it that Arthur Griffith, having won the substance of Irish independence, signed because he, too, thought it would be more difficult for the Dail to repudiate it?</p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps, as so often is the case, the simplest explanation is the true one. In the debate in the Dail on the treaty Barton said: &#8220;The English Prime Minister, with all the solemnity and the power of conviction he alone of all men I have ever met can impart by word and gesture, declared that limit of his patience. He threatened war, he looked war, and he intended war, unless they signed.</p>
<p>No one could doubt his sincerity when his word &#8220;imparted conviction&#8221;, his eyes flashed lighting. How dare they question the ultimatum? They were awed and they signed&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I dined with Lloyd George that night alone. He was in a mood of suppressed excitement.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have delivered my ultimatum&#8221;, he said. I am not giving his exact words, but this was the effect of them: &#8220;We have offered full Dominion status. Either they sign now or negotiations are off. If there is a break we will put into Ireland a large force and restore order. I told them as much and it is now up to them to choose between peace and war.&#8221; Estimates of the size of the force needed to hold down Southern Ireland varied, but the highest figure mentioned was 250,000 men.</p>
<p>&#8220;One significant remark made by Lloyd George as he was leaving I shall always remember:</p>
<p>&#8220;If only Michael Collins&#8221;, he said, &#8220;has as much moral courage as he has physical courage, we shall get a settlement. But moral courage is a much higher quality than physical courage, and it is a quality that brave men often lack&#8221;&#8230;&#8221; (Sir Geoffrey Shakespeare. Let Candles Be Brought In, 1949, p87-9).</p>
<p>So the Irish delegates were hustled, bluffed, intimidated, and over-awed. They forgot what they were and became rebels against their own government. Collins denied in the Dail that he had signed under the impact of the threat of immediate war, and there is evidence that his decision was made beforehand. In that case the persuading was not all done by Lloyd George. Collins and Griffith were party to the final hustling of the other delegates. But Griffith seems to have had little talent for negotiation or for the handling of power. His mind ran on a short-circuit and he had little influence. It was Collins who counted. And it was Collins who took the crucial decision to make a  settlement without consulting the Dail Government.</p>
<p>What matters is not whether the British position was final, but Collins&#8217;s decision not to make the Dail Government deal with his conclusion that it was final and that it must either settle for it or prepare for war. He pre-empted the Dail Government, knowing that the immense British propaganda apparatus would be immediately activated in support of him, and that the situation when he came back to Dublin after signing would be utterly different from what it would have been if he had come back before signing to put it to the Dail Government that the final position had been reached, and obliging it to deal with his own ultimatum within the structure of confidence of Dail legitimacy.</p>
<p>In the realpolitik of the situation, Collins took the game into his own hands with that decision and he acted as if he knew it. He became the Provisional Government on British authority and built a new army with British support. The obvious purpose of his new army was to make war on the IRA, and he must have had that in mind if he said that by signing the Treaty he also signed his own death warrant. But he also seems to have thought that he could handle not only the IRA and the Dail, but also Whitehall. And that was where it all broke down. In the event he was Whitehall&#8217;s man. Whitehall was jubilant when it got him fighting the IRA.</p>
<p>It now seems to be agreed in official circles that the Anti-Treaty position in 1922 was undemocratic. I have learned to be careful about using the word &#8216;democracy&#8217;. In 1969 I made myself widely hated by pointing out that Partition was socially based. Then, around 1970, I wrote something about the Northern Ireland state being democratically valid. That was nonsense.</p>
<p>Northern Ireland was not a state and it had always been excluded from the democracy of the State of which it was part. But, hated though I was, nobody refuted me by pointing this out. I had to refute myself. And that taught me to be careful about democracy.</p>
<p>In January 1922 a Provisional Government was set up by Collins on British authority. Those who set it up might have had a small majority of Dail members for what they did, but it was not the Dail that set it up. Britain did not recognise the Dail as a sovereign authority after the Treaty any more than before it. The Provisional Government was established on British authority both de jure and de facto. And those in the Dail who supported it had to meet as the Parliament of Southern Ireland under the 1920 Act in order to set it up.</p>
<p>That Dail had been returned without a vote in the Summer of 1921. The Home Rule movement had withered away after its defeat in 1918, and no other party or individual contested the independence issue with Sinn Fein.</p>
<p>After the Treaty it was agreed that another election should be held quickly. In May 1922 an agreement was made that the election should not be contested between the Treaty and Anti-Treaty faction of Sinn Fein. The aim was to reproduce the existing balance of forces in the new Dail and establish a Coalition Government with a Treatyite majority. The Dail ratified this Agreement.</p>
<p>Collins was summoned to London and ordered to break it, which he did in ambiguous terms two days before the election.</p>
<p>The election had been delayed so that a Constitution for the Free State should be published for the information of the electorate. Collins tried to nudge it towards republicanism but this was vetoed by Whitehall. The draft Constitution acceptable to Whitehall was published on the morning of the election.</p>
<p>The Election Agreement ratified by the Dail was broken by Collins, sort of, but not quite. A substantial part of the voting was done on the assumption that it held. The Agreement provided for a Treatyite majority in any case, so the Treatyite majority was no surprise. The voting was not on a referendum proposal. It was the election of a Parliament to form a Government.</p>
<p>The Civil War was launched a few days after the Election. It was not launched on the authority of the Dail that had just been elected. If that Dail had met and the matter had been put to it, it is very unlikely that there would have been war.</p>
<p>The war was launched by the Provisional Government in response to yet another Whitehall ultimatum, threatening that the British Army would go into action if the Treatyite Army did not act promptly. The newly elected Dail did not meet until September, by which time the Free State Army was in command, the war was won, and all that remained to be done was the atrocities designed to burn the spirit of defeat into the souls of the defeated.</p>
<p>The most interesting book I know of about the war is by another Harrington, Niall C, the son of a Redmondite MP, who qualified as a chemist, joined the IRA, then joined the Medical Corps of the Treatyite Army and was present with it in Kerry in the Autumn of 1922. The book is Kerry Landing, published in 1992, and it tells how the Munster Republic was taken in the rear by means of a naval landing in Kerry. Harrington then had a long career in the Army before becoming the Organiser of the Federated Union of Employers in 1959. He died in 1981.</p>
<p>Leaving aside ideology about democracy, the book confirms the conclusions I came to forty years ago, so how could I not think it good! : e.g.—</p>
<p>&#8220;The Provisional Government had been in existence for almost six months&#8230; In that time, despite the toing and froing of opposing political and military heads, it was able to build resources and make emergency plans. It could keep its &#8216;front&#8217; busy in talks, arguments and disagreements about maintaining the IRA as the nation&#8217;s volunteer army, while building and strengthening the new regular army. It had the means of doing what it wished to do, while observing very closely the growing aggressiveness of an opposition which spent its time thinking and talking, without agreeing on what was to be done or how to go about doing it. That was where the line of demarcation lay&#8230;&#8221; (p33)</p>
<p>On the constitutional situation brought about by the Treaty:</p>
<p>&#8220;Two Irish governments now functioned side by side&#8230; : the Dail Eireann Government&#8230; and the Provisional Government&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;In that confused and emotive period&#8230; not only were there two national governments&#8230;; there were also two national armies&#8230;, each giving allegiance to a republic, one to the &#8220;existing republic&#8221; proclaimed on Easter Monday 1916 and ratified by Dail Eireann&#8230;, the other to a republic to be achieved in time by the &#8220;stepping stone&#8221; of the Treaty&#8230;&#8221; (p7).</p>
<p>&#8220;Richard Mulcahy&#8230; was insisting that enlistment in the new army being formed by the Provisional Government was an engagement to serve in the &#8220;Regular Forces of the Republican Army&#8221;. This was illusory, of course; de facto it was the army of the Provisional Government that was being recruited; in other words, it was the Free State Army. The IRA who were against the Treaty&#8230; could claim that theirs was the true Republican Army, and so they did claim&#8230;&#8221; (p 10).</p>
<p>In an Appendix, from &#8221;unpublished documents&#8221;, Harrington gives a document by the &#8220;Chief of the General Staff&#8221;, apparently drawn up in early August 1922, which makes the following comment on the war and the Constitution:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is too early to say yet whether we could so establish ourselves [in "certain principal points" in Munster, BC] in time to have Parliament meet on 12th (August). I feel that we shall have to have another postponement&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I consider that if Parliament did not meet until 24th our military position would be very favourable; we would have occupied sufficient additional posts in the South to dominate entirely the position there, and would be able to indicate so definitely our ability to deal with the military problem there that no parliamentary criticism of any kind could  seriously interfere with our ability&#8221; (pl64).</p>
<p>This was the parliament elected in June, that constituted the foundation of &#8216;democracy&#8217; in 1922, but which had never met while democratic order was being imposed.</p>
<p>Brendan Clifford</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Mother’s brother, (uncle) Joseph (Joe) Traynor lived in Ballymount, Clondalkin, and was a Volunteer with ‘F’ Company, 4th Battalion, No 1 Dublin Brigade during the late 19’teens’.  I would welcome any information about his ‘Volunteering’ activities to include a historical note I am writing about him. Joe was captain of the “Young Emmets” GAA [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My  Mother’s brother, (uncle) Joseph (Joe) Traynor lived in Ballymount, Clondalkin,  and was a Volunteer with ‘F’ Company, 4<sup>th</sup> Battalion, No 1 Dublin  Brigade during the late 19’teens’.  I would welcome any information about his  ‘Volunteering’ activities to include a historical note I am writing about  him.</p>
<p>Joe  was captain of the “Young Emmets” GAA football club based in nearby Fox &amp;  Geese on the Naas Road.  He attended the infamous Tipperary-Dublin match in  Croke Park on 21<sup>st</sup> November 1920, later to be known as ‘Bloody  Sunday’.   Joe Traynor was unfortunately one of the 13 people to be shot dead on  that day, having been shot twice at the canal end of Croke Park as he tried to  make his escape with many others over the wall at that  end.</p>
<p>Joe  was a good friend of a PJ Ryan, with whom he attended the match on Bloody  Sunday, and who was also a member of the ‘F’ Company.  It was PJ Ryan who had to  bring the tragic news of his death to Joe’s parents in Ballymount later on that  Sunday evening.</p>
<p>Any  scraps of information would be gratefully received.</p>
<p>For  your information <em> </em>I am attaching a photo of Joe.</p>
<p>Thanking  you in anticipation.</p>
<p>Michael  Nelson.</p>
<p><strong>JOSEPH TRAYNOR</strong></p>
<p><strong>BORN DRIMNAGH CASTLE 1900. DIED TRAGICALLY CROKE PARK,1920 (BLOODY SUNDAY)</strong></p>
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